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    Chris

    We got one, and I’m thinking more for restaurants that say they have gluten-free options, like PF Changs, CPK, and some of our local options. I might test some of the stuff that’s “Manufactured on equipment…” or “In a facility with …” just to see what happens. It looks cool though. Is it just yes or no? or does it give a level/number?

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    LW

    If you don’t subscribe to the Gluten Free Watchdog, you’re doing yourself a disservice. We owe Tricia a huge debt. https://www.glutenfreewatchdog.org/news/lateral-flow-devices-nima-gluten-tox-home-ez-gluten-to-test-food-for-gluten-manufacturer-consumer-use/

    Basically, unless you can take your whole meal, mash it into a homogenous mass, then test a sample for gluten, it’s not going to detect cross contamination.

    If you, however, want to check surreptitiously that a server brought you rice noodles and not wheat noodles, then sure – use your Nima.

    I think I’d rather go with the gluten-sniffing dog. At least they have other benefits. http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2014/09/22/gluten-detecting-dog-celiac/16070397/

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      Cheryl DiBiase

      Where do I get one of those dogs?

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      Autumn

      thank you for sharing!!!

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    Hap

    The Nima sounds cool and great, honest review and conclusions Dude (and Nima).
    I think it will be very helpful for many.

    Unfortunately for me, it’s not conclusive enough for me to start eating out again. I’ve chosen to go hungry, if necessary, instead.

    The Nima and your conclusions further establish how insidious and complex a disease from which we suffer actually is. I told a buddy just yesterday that I’d not be as concerned about ingesting only a tiny bit of gluten as long as all I had to endure was a little upset stomach or some itching. What aggravates the crap, literally, out of me is the firing up of months of systemic autoimmune responses resulting from such a tiny amount of gluten cc such that it’s no longer worth ANY risk especially since I’ve currently overcome, I hope, my gluten caused cancer and retina damages.

    My sincere gratitude to the great folks at Nima for trying to and/or making our lives better! Hear hear !!!

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    Colette Ledoux

    I’ll buy one, not so much as a tool, but more as a toy. 😉 When everyone is busy devouring their gluten laden wonders, I won’t feel the need to leave the table to avoid making anyone feel uncomfortable – seeing me with fork in hand, napkin tucked into my shirt, and an empty spot where a plate should be. My shiny new toy will be a marvellous distraction, and a win-win for all involved!

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    Mai

    I have to agree with some of comments above. I have such anxiety about eating out. Just the other night I went to dinner with my husband. Asked for gluten free meal. When the meal came they said it was, I was questioning the sauce. Had them confirm it was gluten free. I ate it and got sick. If I could of tested it, I could of said no and sent it back.

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    Chantale

    I have a question about the “capsule” in which the food is to be tested: is it the same capsule used every single time? Or is it a disposable one? My point being that cross contamination and false results will ensue if one puts different foods in same cavity…..

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      Merlow

      It’s a one time use capsule

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    Amy Fothergill

    Dude, I had an interesting use case this week. Both my kids reacted as if they had gluten. They had two things that were supposed to be gf (that I didn’t make). Tested the product I was suspicious of with the Nima. Gluten Found. Mystery solved. Very useful. Contacted company. Hopefully saved someone else.

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    Merlow

    I ordered one months ago and it just said it shipped! Unsure of how to handle finding gluten in a meal at a restaurant. I think you “eat at your own risk” and would most likely just not eat it, vs sending it back and trying again and again. This would make me not return to said restaurant though. Would be interesting in seeing how others handle the restaurant scene when they order GF, but their Nima says “gluten found”.

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    Terry

    For many of us, the cost is simply prohibitive. There’s $5-$6 per test on top of the $270 unit, not to mention the cost of the suspect food that you might have to throw away. I suppose if money wasn’t an issue (and their website says some people have been able to use their HSA money to pay for it), it could be a useful tool to track down the source of a gluten exposure. Or if you have to travel a lot.

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      Monique

      That’s my problem too. Cost is too high and even more in Canadian dollars… too sad… I could almost get it… I’m off by about $100. Would hope they have some kind of boxing day special…
      On the usefulness of it I would say that a positive on the screen is always a positive so that’s a no-no to eat and if it’s in a restaurant that told you their food is GF, you can prove they are wrong and avoid getting sick. But I would often suspect of a negative in the Nima and use it as an extra data point in each situation. I would also try to mix parts of the dish in one sample instead of texting only one item. Another point is the retrospective testing: if I got sick yesterday in my house and I’m not sure what made me sick I can test a couple items I’m suspecting of and find it…. I would then throw the role pack in the garbage avoiding getting sick another time. But in all case you can’t trust blindness, it’s always a judgement call.

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    John

    Hi GD,

    How many trials did you run on the Cheerios, and how many pieces of the cereal were in each trial? It sounds from the OP that you checked it once only. My suspicion is that you would get a positive if you ran enough trials, although I’m not sure how many that would be. Also, there may be some variability from one lot to the next so you may have just lucked into a box from a good lot, or you might have gotten one of the better boxes from a lot that could have its share of fails.

    The next lot, box or even another sample from the same box could just as easily test positive, so I’d be interested to hear how that would turn out if you were willing to give it a go.

    Are you planning to test foods you yourself eat to see where they come out? I know from time to time on here you speak of feeling as though you’ve been glutened.

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    Kate

    Came across this recent review of the Nima in Popular Science from someone with celiac – she ran into a lot of the same issues you identify. Thought it might be of interest!

    http://www.popsci.com/gluten-sensor-test-review

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    Jesse

    The other thing to note is that the Nima uses the same lateral flow technology as most tests on the market, just in a fancy package. Big difference here is that other tests are targeted at food manufacturers, not consumers. The vast majority of consumers don’t know that these tests are useless for fermented and hydrolized foods. That means if there is vinegar, wine, fermented vegetables of some kind (kimchi, pickles, saurkraut, etc) then you will get an inaccurate result.

    I suspect this is part of the reason so many GF restaurants have seem failing test results.

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    Paula

    I’ve been using NIMA and feel more comfortable while eating out. It’s a great equipment to give Celiacs a piece of mind to guarantee that the food is indeed GF. I would like to add that NIMA Sensor does not test for Oats. They have it in their website and also by FDA oat is not considered gluten, even though it makes Celiacs sick.

    “Corn, rice, and oats, while glutinous (meaning “like glue in texture”) do not contain the same gluten protein found in wheat, barley, and rye that people with Celiac disease or gluten sensitivities react to, so Nima doesn’t search for corn, rice, or oats in samples of food. Nima would however search for gluten contamination in those foods.”

    I hope it might clarify the cheerios testing.

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      Randi

      Oats make celiacs sick? I didn’t know this and I’ve been diagnosed for over 15 years. I had heard that some oats are cross contaminated, but not the oats themselves. Thanks for the info. Now I’ll research that.

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    Cody

    Dear Gluten Dude,
    I think Nima sensor is becoming more of a hinderance than one tool in a tool box for celiacs. This start up company is introducing a product to consumers before it should be brought to market and all proper testing has been done. The company still lacks third party validation and peer review from the scientific community. In addition, I’m quite unsatisified with the way they are educating their consumers. The other day I contacted a “dedicated” gluten free bakery in my city that recently started hosting a night time pop up that sells cake batter (not gluten free). The owner in part backed up his claim that this was safe because a rep from Nima had recently visited the bakery and their products had all produced a smiley face …so he insisted that they are absolutely still safe for those with celiacs! Recent start up companies that have poorly dealt with similar miseducation or lack of adequate consumer education or improper testing (i.e. Validation) that come to mind are 23andme and thernos. The difference here is that these companies were held accountable. I’m pretty disappointed with Nima as a company and I think they are taking advantage of the celiac community.

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    Randi

    I am interested in a Nima. It’s not to test something that could be cross-contaminated, of course. It may be a retroactive tool. Example: I started a food diary when I got unexpectedly sick. If I get sick, I put every item I ate that day on the “no way” list. I know it would be expensive, but maybe I could test the suspected culprits and keep some items on my “safe to eat” list. I believe each use is $8 to $10 bucks for the capsule? A small price when you look at the payoff. Whenever I get sick, I’m often confused what it was that did it. Maybe this could help.

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